This is a copy of the first interview with The Virus from the UK streetpunk zine Kontrol! The interview is from 1998. Most of the hyperlinks are dead. You can find some scans of the old Kontrol! zines on Facebook HERE
Kontrol: Alright chaps, give us the history of the band, in all the grusome detail you like. Jarrod (Drums): "The band has only been around since the beginning of this year (1998), so we are a fairly new band. Dave and I were in a band that played a lot of shows and did a lot of traveling. We got sick of that band, some of the other members, some of their ideas, and we just weren't happy with what we were doing. We had been friends with Mike for a while and he called me up one day and said that he was putting a band together and wanted me to play drums. I mentioned to him about maybe trying out Dave because he could play guitar pretty well and that would add a second guitarist. In our previous band Dave was the singer. So in the end, Dave and I ended up being so much happier with the new band that we quit our old band. The current line up is: Mike Virus age 24/vocals- Chris age 20/guitar and vocals- Dave age 21/guitar and vocals - Jarrod age 22/drums- and the most recent addition to the band Mark age 25/bass." Mike (Vocals): "I was looking to start a band, but I was looking to start one with the right people. People I knew were as dedicated to this whole punk rock thing as I was. I wanted people who wanted to portray a lifestyle in our music, and not just looking to portray scales on a guitar. All the guys in this band, I have known for years, drank with for years, and had a good pogo with. So I mentioned it to Jarrod, and he told me that Dave, who formerly sang for Bomb Squadron, played guitar, as well as sang, and Chris was looking to start a band again, after being in U.S.Expulsion. The idea I had for this band was to be a celebration of punk rock. Not just one facet of punk, but true punk rock in general. I wanted a band that represented the best in everything punk, because so many different types of punk influenced my life. I wanted a band that could pull off a great 1977 pogo song, and then the very next song have a total Mau Maus/Discharge influence. Also important to me was to have some songs that even had a bit of an American influence, because we all got into punk listening to those bands. Too often those bands get pushed under the carpet in the states, and the English bands are the only bands the kids will acknowledge. Punk was a worldwide phenomenon, and I wanted that represented in our music. I definitely consider The Virus to be a celebration of punk rock. More than just a band." Chris (Guitar): "I had been in a band for a couple years that had pretty much fallen apart, and we weren't really getting anywhere. Like Jarrod & Dave, I'm friends with Mike, and one night while we were hanging out we talked about starting a band. So he got in touch with Dave and Jarrod, then one day we all hooked up at a practice space just to throw some ideas around. We ended up writing 3 songs that day and everything just clicked. Everyone got along, we worked well together, and we shared many of the same views as far as punk and the world in general are concerned. As for ideologies, we're not subscribers to one certain way of thinking. Our song topics have a pretty wide range. I write a lot of the lyrics and I write how I feel that day. Some days I wake up feeling idealistic, and I'll write songs of change and so on. other days I'll wake up in a different mood, or I'll have a bad week or whatever, and I write doomsday songs. It all depends...I feel different everyday depending on my environment. Some days life ain't too bad, some days you fight the world. I think its something lots of people can identify with. People don't want to hear a hundred songs about the end of the world, and people don't want to hear the same about changing the world or fighting...people feel different, and I think when they read our lyrics they'll get a good mix." Kontrol: So can you give us some indication on how we can expect you to sound? I mean what pigeon-hole are you gonna put yourself into? MIKE- The Virus has many influences in its music. Some of our songs sound like it could have come right out of 1977, some with a European influence, some with an American influence. Other songs sound like straight up 82 English punk, other songs have a definite Varukers/Discharge influence. We all have our favorite types of punk. Personally, I am mostly into the Killed By Death type 77 shit. Also the early NY punk. Chris on the other hand is heavily into Discharge and heavier shit. Jarrod is mostly into 82 punk, and Mark is as well. Dave is a total rocker, and is way too punk to pigeonhole, and to big of a guy for me to try, so im not gonna even fucking try. Jeff our old bass player was into the Titanic Soundtrack." Dave (guitar): "Labeling in general is really useless nowadays because everything is so crossed over." Chris: "We really have no set sound. its all punk, but we mix it up. We'll blast out a 77 style song, then we'll do some fast shit, then something heavier, whatever. We don't limit ourselves. We dont say "ok, we need to write some like this blah blah" or anything. Its good because we all have different tastes as far as punk music goes, so there's lots of different input, and we can all add our part." Kontrol: Tell us a little about how you became involved with the Punk scene and why something so different to what's considered 'Normal' by Joe Average appealled to you? Jarrod: "When I was like around 13 yrs. old I started really getting into skateboarding, and I used to buy tapes of all the bands that were advertised in the skateboarding magazines like the Exploited, G.B.H., Black Flag, Germs, Dead Kennedy's, JFA, etc. I was young and didn't really pay attention to the lyrics or anything other than the fact that the music sounded good, but as I grew older I started realizing that these bands were more than just music - that they had something important to say, that they were a part of some sort of movement. When I realized just what was behind the music, I knew that this was what I wanted to make my life. Ever since then the scene has been probably the most important thing in my life for so many reasons. Mainly I look at the world in a whole different way now. I see how blind and closed - minded a lot of "normal" people are. So many "normal" people claim to be intellectually skilled and educated, but what good is that if you're too closed minded to use that intellect to its potential?" Chris: "Ever since i was younger, I've never been "normal". I've never been popular, or played sports, or done really well in school. My friend's older brother got us into the Exploited and from there it just progressed. Around that same time I had started playing guitar, so right off the bat, I knew I wanted to play in punk bands. A lot of the lyrics touched on things I had been feeling for years, and I really identified with it. I really loved the fact that I could pay 5 bucks, see like 5 bands, meet a bunch of people, and no one was gonna hassle me, or tell me what to do. It really changed my life, and I know in one way or another, I'll be involved in it for the rest of my life." Dave: "I lucked out b/c where I live there were a lot of open minded older kids, who got me into stuff by passing me homemade compilation tapes and there were a lot of small clubs putting on all ages shows and the atmosphere at the time was that it didn't matter if you were younger as long as you showed the older kids respect they would help you out and get you into other bands etc. I learned young that the lifestyle of everyday people, clones, college kids, etc. wasn't for me. Punk opened my eyes early on to social issues and concerns, and I liked the idea that it was ok to not be a part of the carbon copy model of what you 'should' do or be (ie. get a job, get married, settledown, etc.) I don't ever want to be 50yrs. old and talk about the 'good old days', I always want to stay and feel as young as I possibly can. i'd rather burn out doing something I like than die a miserable old man." Mike: "In my opinion, in order to be a punk you had to have been hated. You had to have been shit in peoples eyes. You had to have had a reason to rebel. Unlike a lot of the kids getting into it today, who have it easy, who get into punk because they heard the word mentioned on MTV in a Rancid interview, I couldnt get on with the others. I had no friends, I was beat up, I couldn't make it click. So just like all the other kids at the time who couldnt fit in, I did the only thing I could do.I bought a skateboard. Skateboarding for me is what changed my life. At the time, skateboarding and punk rock in America was one in the same. If it wasnt for that damn skateboard, I would have never seen my first show, which was at a skatepark, never heard BlackFlag, or the Circle Jerks, or any of the other bands I first got into. It just grew from there. Skateboarding changed, and became associated with rap, and rave in the states, and the attitude changed, so I stashed the skateboard, but punk was with me for life from then on." Mark (bass): "Ten years ago, when I got into the scene it was for the music, and I progressed from there." Kontrol: What do you make of the way Punk Rock has spread across the globe - and translates across hundreds of languages and hundreds of cultures? Chris: "I think punk has spread world wide because it isn't a local culture type thing...sure bands from certain areas sing about local events, governments, etc...but the ideas in general are really global issues. Rebellion, wanting to be free, things like that know no boundaries." Jarrod: "People all over the world are different in their cultures and backgrounds, but despite that I definitely think that people experience the same kinds of struggles and problems. Especially in countries that are constantly in some of state of war, people are wanting the same types of things that punk bands have been singing about for years now- freedom to live as you want, to be treated fairly, etc. I think the basic drive of wanting what is fair and wanting to be free from control are natural human desires despite your culture, where your from, or your background. I think that punk music has always been driven by such motives, and that's why no matter where in the world you can almost always find the music. Sure it sometimes has a different sound, but the basic form is almost always the same." Dave: "I think it has translated over the world well b/c everyone has problems and is looking for an escape which punk offers. If you strip it down, punk means that no matter who you are, you count for being somebody." Mike: "I think punk is a universal language. I can listen to a fucking band from Sweden, not understand a god damn thing they are saying, and completely relate to that band. I can hear the emotion and the honesty and desperation in the vocals and the music, and I can relate to that band. That is when you know a band is real. If you can feel the anger, if you can feel the emotion, and the frustration and the hate, the band is good. If the band makes you want to go out and kill every fucker who has held ya down, the band is good. If the band makes you just feel content, and is just background music, and doesn't really stir something up in you, you know they are bad." (Checkout the Main Street Saints interview this issue in which we go a bit deeper on this question with bassist, Tim Nord. Unfortunately, we didn't have time to get back to The Virus to ask them to digress on some of their answers.) Mark: "Punk is something that in everyone in every country has at one point or another been able to relate to politically or socially." Kontrol: So tell us a little about some of your live experiences? Jarrod: "The live shows have been great so far. We got a chance to play with Special Duties on their recent tour of the USA. That show was incredible. I think our best show was when we played at Coney Island High in N.Y.C at the Casualties second LP release show. The show was so packed, and we got a great crowd response so we were happy. To date we have a split 7" coming out on Blackhole Records with the Manix from N.Y.C. The split should be out by the end of November 1998. It will be $4 postpaid in the U.S.A. and $5 postpaid Rest Of World, and $3 from us at shows." Dave: "Shows have been a blast for us so far. At the Special Duties in Philly Mike got his head smashed open from the boot of a stagediver and had to go to the hospital. Then we got harassed by cops on horses for hanging out in front of the club. We got stuck playing a show to only a handful of kids but we still had a blast." Kontrol: What do you think it is that keeps Punk going? Mike: "What keeps punk going in my opinion, unfortunately, is the nostalgia. I'd like to say its the newer bands, but in my opinion it is not. That would explain why 90% of the time when you see a punk rock kid, he is covered in logos of bands that are 15 or 20 years old. There are not many new bands coming out today that I feel have the heart in their music like the older bands. I know people will disagree with that, but that is my opinion. I also know a lot of people will say that a lot of those bands sold out, and I agree with that. I am only talking about as far as their music goes, and the heart felt emotion in the lyrics. You hear that very rarely these days. Unfortunately what I think keeps punk going are the older bands, and the few bands out there that can emulate them." Mark: "There is still a need for something that goes against the grain. I think punk means freedom to express yourself anyway possible. The best thing it provides is an outlet for people who want something different. The worst thing is people who do not really have their heart in it." Chris: "Well, take a look at the state of the world in the late 70's, and take a look now...nothings changed. On the music end, "big" bands are still stupid, tired, rock star cunts. There's still people who hate that shit. Politically, same thing...kids and youth still have no say. The generations before us have still made mistakes. the future of kids today is still totally up in the air. Its hard to get a job, etc etc. What punk means to me? Well, I hate to sound cliche here, but "havin' a laugh, and havin' a say"...its great that you can start a band, play songs you love, travel all over, meet new people and have a great time, all while sharing ideas, and getting your message out. The worst things in my eyes are the divisions in cults, and the recent trend in being "a- political". (I feel a rant from my own heart coming on!! - Ed.) I think these bastards who think its ok to listen to racist bands just for the music need to be smashed in the street along with the nazis. The a-political people are afraid. They're afraid to speak out on what's right... afraid to pick a side. If it means losing a few friends, I don't care. When you feel strongly about something, you stand up for it. I'm not saying you have to be out at every protest and be some ultra-politcal person, but you should at least know what's right, and pick that side." Kontrol: Couldn't have said it better myself, old chap. Spot on!! Jarrod: I think that people are attracted to the ideas and the sound of the music. It's such a powerful and emotional mix when you match the ideas to such a driving style of music. From 77 style stuff like the Clash to Discharge/Varukers type stuff, the sound is different but the music is all played with the same degree of emotion, and that's what I think keeps it going. Personally the music is my life. From the time I wake I'm either listening to it, talking about it, reading about it, etc. It is "a way of life" I guess. As a band I see punk as being a means that I can express my ideas and be around others who share the same kinds of thoughts. I think the best thing to come out of punk is that it offers the ability for so many people to express their ideas. Like everyone who wants to form a band and sing about their ideas can. That and the ideas that are involved with it. The worst thing about it is, since it is open to all that it also allows for a lot of scumbags to get into the scene. People who want to take advantage of the scene either for popularity purposes or to make a profit." Dave: "Punk keeps going and surviving b/c it's the only movement where the kids can be a part of it and have nothing to lose. Everyday more and more kids are getting involved. The scene as a whole may have it's ups and downs, but it has left a mark in history that cannot be denied. Punk means to me that I can do whatever I want and I don't have to answer to anyone. I like the idea that if I want to have an intelligent conversation with someone and learn something that I can do that, while at the same time if someone crosses me or rips me off I can throw a bottle at them and that is ok too. I think the best thing to come out of punk is all the different styles. I could listen to bands like Varukers, Hellkrusher to bands like the Ramones. The worst thing is the 'fly by nighters', or kids who are into it for a week, then you see them with later and they want nothing to do with punk." Kontrol: So how did you get involved with this Internet business and what's it done for you? Chris: "I started using the internet a few years ago out of pure boredom. In my old band, having a webpage was a great way to get our message out to people who would have otherwise never even heard of us. It helped us meet people and bands, get shows, etc. I think it'll be the same way for this band." Mike: "I think the internet has done a tremendous service for punk bands, as well as punk rock in general. It gives people access to bands that they might not have otherwise know existed. I think that is great. Also as far as record collecting goes, it is great because you can find shit much easier. All in all I think it has done good for punk. Already it has helped us as a band, because people who have not seen us play, can get a taste of what we are about from looking at our website, and can order our merchandise. Hopefully some chicks will check it out as well, and will send us naked pictures and shit." Kontrol: Just remeber to pass a copy on here then, Mike. OK. Ho! Ho! That's it - a thousand letters of protestation will be on their way here now!! Damn! Mark: "It helps punk bands more than people care to admit." Jarrod: "I totally agree that the internet is a great source of communication. (and porno pictures? Sorry. Ed.) Anything that allows people to access information and knowledge is essential. I got into it because I heard that there were a lot of people selling records etc on the internet and I am really into collecting records, so I got internet access so that I could trade and buy records from others. i soon realized that there was so much information that I could access through the internet.There are so many bands, labels, etc that have websites where you can get information that is sometimes otherwise in accessible. Plus it is very DIY, because it is so open and almost unregulated. It is truly one of the last uncontrolled or "free" forms of communication available. We just set up a website for the band a few days ago and we have already had approximately 200 people visit it. So the internet will definitely help our band by allowing people to contact us and find out information about the band." Dave: "I don't like to deal with the cyber-god. Technology scares me." Kontrol: With your selection of one line answers, Dave, we'd never have guessed. OK, Sex, Society, Drugs, Death and Politics are all valid subjects for songs - but is there more to life than just complaining about what a shit world it is? Mike: "As far as I am concerned these topics are covered too much in the wrong way. I like to write about how I feel, but I dont want to sing about the kids on the street always sniffin glue. If I have something to say about how I feel, and alcohol or drug abuse has something to do with it, its going in my lyrics. We try to write lyrics however that are intelligent and not without thought. As far as society goes we are a punk band, society is our enemy of course that is going to be reflected in out lyrics. Politics yes, but I would not say we are a political band as compared to bands like Aus Rotten or a band like that. I like to have a happy medium. Nowadays, no street band bands have anything political to say. I dont like that I find it strange as well, because most of the bands the street punk kids listen to definitely had political messages." Mark: "Our lyrics deal with social issues we believe in, not necessarily what everyone else believes." Jarrod: "I draw the line when it gets to the point that you are telling people how they should think. So many bands tell people how to think, and if people don't think that way or if they have different views on the subject, then they don't want to deal with them. That only alienates people and turns them off to what you are saying. If you run around saying "this is what you should do...this is right that is wrong" etc., then you will only turn people off to the point that you're trying to make. It is better to present people with a point of view, or provide them with information about a subject. That allows them to listen to what you're saying and think about it. If you TELL people what to do no one will listen to what you have to say. I won't cover songs about beer, drinking, sex etc. They are all things that I do but I would rather use my music to express ideas etc. about more important topics. Not that I don't enjoy bands that sing about those things, but in my music they are not topics that I want to sing about." Chris: "Like jarrod, I wont sing about beer, shit like that. I wont sing love songs, about my hair or how I dress, and most importantly, I won't go to extremes politically. When you go too far, people can't relate and feel alienated. When you present ideas in a regular way, people can understand better, and don't feel on the defense about your lyrics." Dave: "I'm proud of the fact that we can write about topics that scare us and concern us. I won't do songs with Oi! chants, or songs about girls- shit like that." Kontrol: OK, tell us a bit about your local scene and how you feel it compares to the rest of the States, Europe, Etc. Mike: The Philadelphia scene is the scene I was brought up in. Its the only scene I really know. Sure I go to New York, for shows, have friends from other states and shit, have been to shows in other cities, but this is my home. Just like everyone hates their own scene most of the time, so do I, but also there are things I honestly like about it. This is where my friends area lot of them, and this is also where my enemies are. I like that. I know where everything stands that way. The Philadelphia scene when I was younger, actually was huge. I remember it very well. Its smaller now, and a lot of those people are gone, but on a small scale level , I still like it. I just wish we were actually able to play here." Mark: "Our scene hasnt changed much, but there is a lot less of us. As compared to NYC we have a pretty good scene. The European scene is much stronger than ours." Chris: "I grew up in Philadelphia and recently moved to New Jersey. The Philly scene has definitely changed for the worst. It was once a strong, punk oriented scene with shows every weekend and so on. but like always, people move on, give up, or lose touch. Its been a steady decline over the last couple years. Now there's pretty much no room for punk in Philadelphia. With exceptions, there are basically no punks in Philadelphia. I'm not trying to be the judge on who's punk, but its just fact. The kids are either into heavy metal, grindcore, emo, ska, or hardcore. No one cares about punk anymore, and they look down on the few punks that are left. Its pretty sad that I can go to a punk show in this city, and get comments about my hair and shit. The sad thing is, some of the younger kids who are into punk will move on soon, because there's nothing for them. There's no punk bands, no punk shows, no good record stores, nothing. Its sad that for a major American city, Philadelphia has got to be the worst as far as punk is concerned. As far as other places, New Jersey has a pretty weak scene. New York is pretty good, but it used to be a lot better. People in America like to make a big deal out of the east coast punk scene, but in actuality, its pretty much nothing. If you're into good, old fashioned, PUNK (not emo, not metal, not hardcore, just punk), America in general is a pretty sad place. From what I've heard of Europe (including the UK) and Japan, punks seem to have a real presence and it sounds more like a community. I would love to live somewherewhere you could go see punks hanging out on the street corners any given day. America will never be like that. (Don't believe everything you read! - Ed.) Jarrod: "We're a Philadelphia, PA based band, but actually Mike and Mark are the only members who actually live there. I been to a lot of different cities playing and going to shows and I can say that Philadelphia is seriously one of the worst. I can say that with a clear conscience because I don't live there. But as a whole I see the philly scene as back very hypocritical and counterproductive. Plus it is one big clique. If you don't kiss ass and play by other's rules then you're fucked. The funny thing is, is that the same people who will talk shit about you are the first people to come and ask you for help when things go wrong. I don't know too much about scenes in other countries from first hand experience becasue I have never been outside of the USA before, but from what I hear and the records that buy I think that there are a lot of really great scenes out there. Especially in Japan. I keep seeing new Japanese bands popping up all the time, and I keep hearing about how good of a scene they have over there. I heard that about Germany too. I think America has a decent scene but it is so spread out." Kontrol: Where do you stand on all this 'Sell-out' business? Mike: "The way I feel about the sell out business is this: If a band is real fucking vocalagainst corporate labels and whatnot and then does it when the opportunity comes knockin at the door, then fuck them, they are hypocrites. And then that would make you a sell out. If a band never claimed to be against that shit, and that is what they choose to do, then fine. That was the choice they made and thats cool. They are not selling out because they never claimed to be against it in the first place." Mark: "It seems that if there are more than ten kids wearing your shirt, you are considered a sell out. I feel as long as you dont become hypocritical in your music it is not selling out. The best way to progress is to put out as much music as possible." Chris: "I think that as soon as you label yourself a punk band, you automatically become against major labels, MTV, etc. I don't care whether you confront the topic in your lyrics or not...if you play the Warped Tour, sign with a big label, have a video, whatever...you're just not a punk band anymore. You may continue to play punk style music, but you aren't punks, and never will be again. When you do things like that you go against the very reasons punk was started. I don't want any exposure...i just want to play for punks, make records for punks. I know I'll never make money, I'll never be on the radio or MTV, but that's not why I'm in this. I'm in this cause its what I believe, and its my life." Jarrtod: "I have a real problem with bands that say they are against making money, fame, etc. and then end up getting into those very same things. The excuse that they just want to express their ideas to a larger crowd is fucking garbage too. In America we have what is called the Warped tour where it is bands like Rancid, Greenday, etc that go and play this huge tour sponsored by like Pepsi and all these people who want nothing more to do with punk then to make money. Do you really think Pepsi would have anything to do with punk ideals if there wasn't money involved? So anyway, at each stop on the tour there is always opening for local bands to play etc. And these bands basically sell their soul and make compromises in order to play. Afterward they use the excuse "We just wanted to get our ideas out to a larger crowd", but that is garbage because most of the people there don't care about ideas. When you take something that was meant to be raw and sincere, then match it with money, profit, fame, etc. it takes away a lot of the sincerity. Plus a lot of bands let it go to their head. After eventually realizing that you won't get rich off of playing underground clubs, halls, basements, etc. for like 200-300 people, and then they play a big show like the warped tour for like 1000- 2000 kids, and they see that they can make money, then money becomes the motive instead of the ideas. So then they start making excuses in order to find away for them to justify to themselves that it is ok to abandon their ideas in order to increase their fame and income. There is nothing wrong with making money, and there are a lot of underground bands that do that without having to compromise. In my eyes, "selling out" is abandoning your ideas and beliefs in order to gain popularity. And with the warped tour, sure maybe you can still play your songs they way you always have, but look who is profiting form your performance? Pepsi? And all the other stands that set up selling 'Punk' merchandise? I just have a real problem with people making money off of my sincere ideas and beliefs just for the purpose of increasing profits. Dave: "I don't care about progression as far as coverage, selling records, being on TV, having my fucking face on a T- Shirt. Progression happens for me with my music. I play it and do it for myself. I don't care about getting paid for it, or getting chicks for it." Kontrol: Sorry, did you say chicks or cheques there? :) Anyhow, what do you make of the European fascination of festivals? Mike: "We do not have anything compared to Holidays in the Sun over here. We do have cock rock festivals though with such inspiring acts as Bad Religion, Rancid, Cherry Poppin Daddys and No Doubt. Nothin like Holidays though. I think it is a great thing. Would I be concerned that its expensive? Not at all. It's not cheap to put on event like that, and you are basically watching history repeat itself.to me thats worth something. And also those bands should make some money for doing that. Think about the number of people they influenced! Why shouldn't they make a couple bucks for that fuckin show, or do a tour and make some of the money they deserve? More power to em! Why should a band like No Doubt make money but a band like Vice Squad who played Holidays not? Fuckin right they have a right to get paid." Mark: "Yes, we have events like that, they are also too expensive, and they don't promote local or even real punk bands. I went to Anarchy in the UK in London in 1994,and it was a great time." Chris: "I think the festival thing is great, I would love to play one, or even go see one. I think its great to see the old bands, but I question some of their motives. Bands like the Special Duties, The Varukers, Instant Agony, etc etc...sure they've reformed, but they're picking up exactly where they left off, and they're not doing it to make money. Do you think The Varukers or Special Duties make a dime when they come tour over here, playing small clubs and holes in the wall, to 2-300 people tops? Hell no. They barley break even. Do you think Instant Agony will make money on the self-released EP they just put out? No way. They're just doing what they love...and bands like The Exploited, and GBH have not broken up...although they've changed sounds a bit, they're still there, and are still punk, and hold so much respect in my eyes. I won't name names, (Arhh! Always name names if you're gonna make accusations!! You mean Stiff Little Fingers, The Damned, X-Ray Spex, etc... -Ed.) but I think a good number of the reunited bands do it for money reasons, and if I suspect it I won't support them. It would be great to see more newer bands at these festivals, but sadly, there aren't many new bands that could hold up well with bands of such caliber. (Bull!! What makes old bands any better than new? It's just a matter of attitude and confidence. Craft your songs a bit decent, practice a lot and you'll blow away the best of 'em!! - Ed.) Maybe the future will see differently, but for now, that's the way I see it." Jarrod: "We have nothing like that here in the USA. Not what I would call a 'real' punk festival anyway. I would love to go to see like Holidays in the Sun or something. I've seen the videos and I would kill to see that many good bands all at the me festival. Sometimes here in the USA, when a touring band comes through a city, sometimes people who set up the shows don't add any local or new bands to the bill. All bands should get at least one shot a playing a show. Personally I like it when a show is set up to include older bands and newer bands. I think that if you're setting up a 'festival' or something along those lines, that you should definitely allow newer bands to play. Mix it up among older and newer bands.But like I said I don't know much about those festivals because I don't really have any first hand experience." Kontrol: OK. The Limeys revenge!! Why are the US so bad at Football (Soccer)? Jarrod: "I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the USA all the people involved with sports like soccer, American football, baseball, etc, from the players to the fans- none of them would want anything to do with, nor would they want any kind of punks or skinheads or anyone from the scene involved with their sports. When you are growing up in school, in America that is, all the kids who are into sports would go out of their way to make fun of and harass punks and skinheads, and whoever. So here no one from the scene wants anything to do with any kind of sports. That's why I never understood why a lot of the bands etc. from the UK are into Football, or as it is called here- Soccer, because in America Punks have nothing to do with sports and vice versa. So I really don't know too much about any sports, or teams etc. I didn't even know the USA had a soccer team!" Kontrol: Let's just say Football used to be a working class pastime, both watching and playing. However, nowadays, to get into a Premier league match it costs around twenty pounds (forty dollars?) so in effect by putting up the prices they keep out the 'poor' trouble makers whom UK football is renowned for. Right? Wrong. 'Cos all the real football hooligans are loaded so the only people who are ommited are the 'poor'. Premier league football is a middle class playground now - the lower league's have a little more honesty. But as with Punk Rock - the best football to be found is played by the 'part-timers' in park on a Sunday morning, and it's free to watch!! Beerguts, punch-ups and broken legs galore!! I take the piss out of US Soccer, though the US national team did actually beat England not long ago - though by our current standard, that's no big deal. Chris: "I could care less about sports. The only difference I see between UK soccer teams and American soccer teams is that some are people kicking a ball from England, and some are people kicking a ball from America. Like Jarrod said, sports and punk don't go together in America." Dave: "I hate sports but until the UK makes a sport of drinking a case of beer and driving a race car, don't ask why the USA is bad at anything....just kidding...actually I don't follow any sports." Kontrol: Hey, Dave. A two line answer!!!! Just kidding. Mike: "I'll agree with Jarrod on this one. I didn't even know we had a soccer team." Mark: "The reason why our team is so bad, is that in the US, there is no money in the media for soccer, so there is no crowd support." Kontrol: There you go! Correct answer. What better reason do you need to adopt the sport - neglected by the Media because it's not trendy: Sound familiar???? 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